[♪ ELECTRONIC MUSIC ♪] – I think, you know, we live in a period where we’re surrounded by so much imagery, more than ever. This exhibition is not dictating to you, it is asking you questions. It is more about how you emotionally feel about looking at two things beside each other. – So with this exhibition we thought we would invite someone from another creative field to look at these works that are familiar to us with a completely new viewpoint. Artists are now thinking in a much more broad and diversified way. ‘They are no longer thinking about the history of art but they are looking to the history of design, or fashion or music or literature as a kind of reference point.’ And I think for us, it’s important that we, sort of, engage with that shift. – ‘This exhibition is different to other things that we’ve worked on because Jonathan’s bringing the kind of, I guess the process of being a designer’. It’s not really just about the finished work. This is actually about how does fashion come about? What is it? And the lateral thinking behind a kind of creative process or something new being made. – Jonathan having the kind of freedom to be, as the title says, ‘disobedient’, somehow. Not having to treat the artwork in quite the same terms or constraints as say the curator. I think that removes the shackles from the designer. – ‘I collect and I feel that there are things that have influenced me’. So I feel that you know with this exhibition it is a kind of personal edit. Putting a Henry Moore with a Jean Paul Gaultier dress. For me, there was an excitement about the dialogue of these two characters speaking to each other. And maybe, the conversation that you see might be completely different than what I see. ‘It means that you go on a journey to it.’ ‘You explore something else.’ – ‘I think you’ll get a level of intimacy and closeness to some really major artwork’. And I think it will challenge your view of fashion, perhaps. – ‘Where we are today, I think it’s incredibly important that we get out of our comfort zone’. Ultimately I’m hoping that people come away with this idea that you know no matter what you do in life, you can oppose things to make something which is beautiful.